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Brian’s Story

A journey to authenticity

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Brian Di Bartolomeo tells his life pivot story from start to finish. On the outside it looked like success: an EVP title, a team of 120, a real-estate portfolio, an early retirement plan already in motion. Underneath, he was giving away a little more of himself every year and calling it fine.

Then it all arrived at once. The company sold to private equity. His mother died. A month later, his marriage ended. On one work call the disrespect crossed a line, and he hung up and said out loud, “I’m done.” He skipped a party weekend in London for a retreat in Big Sur, and spent the next eighteen months between here and there: knowing something had to change, not knowing what. He came out the other side with one word: less.

In this episode

  • The house fire that cleaned the slate when he was young, and how the wanting crept back
  • Why “gripping” is the feeling to watch for, and the signs he now sees a decade before the break
  • The question from his coach that took months to answer (who am I?), and the Thanksgiving moment of clarity about his marriage
  • Letting go of perceived certainty and what other people will think
  • Learning to say no, non-negotiables, and why what you’re pivoting from becomes your boundary
  • Brian’s advice for anyone on the edge of a pivot: listen to yourself, be vulnerable, let go

Chapters

  • 00:00 Who is Brian today
  • 03:11 The word: less
  • 04:41 Life before the pivot
  • 07:24 Gripping
  • 08:56 The house fire
  • 13:45 When everything arrived at once
  • 18:50 The call, and choosing a retreat over London
  • 27:13 Eighteen months between here and there
  • 32:43 Retreats, contemplation, and asking for what you need
  • 34:09 Who am I?
  • 37:24 The Thanksgiving moment
  • 40:40 “I’m going to be okay”
  • 42:52 Perceived certainty and what people will think
  • 44:40 Saying no, and the harder work of rebuilding
  • 47:47 How Brian has changed
  • 53:04 What keeps him on the path
  • 54:26 What you pivot from becomes your boundary
  • 55:12 Non-negotiables
  • 58:54 Success vs. happiness
  • 1:01:02 Advice for someone on the edge of a pivot

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