Ka Wai Cheung spent 18 years building a software company. The day he sold it, he felt relief. Then, almost straight away, a harder question showed up: who am I now?
In our first guest episode, Ka Wai tells Michael and Brian what happened when the plan ran out. In the same few months he became a full-time dad to two young kids, finished a years-long home renovation, started driving his father-in-law to his appointments three days a week, and welcomed a cousin moving over from Hong Kong. He was doing a lot, and very useful, but he wasn’t feeling useful. Somewhere in there, he lost himself.
What came next wasn’t a new title. It was learning to live in the next five minutes, to keep his craft in a smaller dose, and to stop playing someone else’s game. Michael has a particular view of this one: he and Ka Wai were business partners in the company Ka Wai sold.
This week’s question: who were you five minutes ago, and who do you want to be in the next five?
Tell us on Instagram at @bhtcollective.
In this episode
- Why every earlier pivot came with a well-paved road, and this one didn’t
- When being entrepreneurial almost backfires
- Living in the moment isn’t skydiving
- 8 hours of work in 20 minutes: building again, with AI tools
- Running as the one hour that’s just yours
- Your “shoulds” are often someone else’s rules
- The messy middle as contraction: making the world smaller until you find your footing
- One percent better, and allowed to be bad
- Why the most tense seasons of life turn out to be the most interesting
Chapters
- 00:00 Intro
- 02:35 The sale
- 05:10 A series of life events
- 13:52 Living in the next five minutes
- 16:08 Keeping your craft, in a smaller dose
- 23:01 Playing your own game
- 27:31 The messy middle
- 36:14 One percent better
- 38:14 For anyone not ready to move yet